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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.04 10:47:57 -
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Hm.
20 Million PS4 owners, next to even more PC owners.
Why exactly should they help you sidestep your inability to buy it yourself?
Of course there are people who can't afford it for various reasons, but why in hell should they have one if they can not buy one?
The argument of "promotes PLEX and the game" is crap. Valkyrie does not need this kind of promotion, as don't the VR sets. They are literally self promoting fountains of money.
Besides, it would only attract more cheapskates who do not want to pay money but think they should have everything. No need for these.
If you want something, achieve it. Hording PLEX to get one doesn't count as one, not even if you are a carebear who feeds his ego by shooting easy targets.
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"AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.04 10:49:43 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Meh. Just be one of the first 5 guys who delivers a canister of "Titan Black Prototype" to Godel Ring station in Ededleen and you'll earn a Titan Black in RL. "Titan Black Prototype" are a rare good available in unlimited supply at a undisclosed starport. ..... what???
"Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote.
"AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.04 13:01:19 -
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SKINE DMZ wrote:Some people here.. really don't understand marketing. IMO this would be a great thing, and fully support it if it does happen. All you lot care about is your selfishness, greed and consumerism.
"Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote.
"AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.04 13:07:43 -
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raven666wings wrote:I see you're still posting in this thread. What exactly are you trying to achieve with your rants here? It's not ranting when I tell you to not be such a cheapskate and instead EARN the things you want.
Of course you are free to beg like you do, but the bullshit around it is hypocrisy.
Yes, it's begging.
You are a beggar.
"Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote.
"AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.04 13:15:44 -
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raven666wings wrote:Please do not vent your anger and frustration in this thread. Personal attacks have also no place here. It's no attack.
You ARE begging. No amount of your hypocrisy can help you hide that.
"Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote.
"AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.04 13:31:38 -
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raven666wings wrote:Why don't you just tell us the real reason why you don't want this promotion to happen? Not what I am talking about, as you can easily see in my previous posts.
Your hypocrisy does not work.
"Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote.
"AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:04:30 -
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I admit I could have written down the reasons why I believe you are begging. This really isn't anything personal, it's based on rationale and I can explain it.
Not sure how to start.
.) Sony will be promoting their headset heavily. They have billions and 20 Million PS4 users.
.) The reach CCP has, compared to Sony's, is rediculously small. Let's take an unreasonably high guess how many would actually pay with PLEX for the headset and say it's 1000 players. Even assuming that the headset *only* costs 300, that would be 300.000 for a mere 1000 players. Now let's imagine a worst case and assume it's 5000 players. That would be 1.500.000 ...
Hundreds of thousands are not a "drop in the bucket" ... ... for a relatively small company like CCP ... ... especially considering the fact how small CCP's audience is.
Even if we assume Sony can give a 50% cut (HA...), that would still be 150.000 for a rediculously low amount of 1000 players.
1000 players compared to the millions who will be reached by Sony, not even talking about all the media out there who are hyping it to no end.
.) Valkyrie will be a launch title and bundled with Sony's headset. This, plus the fact that it's the first AAA title for a headset, plus the fact that it's a headset, makes this thing a self promoter.
Everyone is talking about it. Everyone who has tried it loves it.
.) The only people such a "promotion" would attract, are those who want a headset, but are not willing or capable of affording one. These people will not shelve out even 15 bucks a month to play this game. At best, they would stay and play for free.
The fact that PLEX are being paid by others does not matter here, because they do not add money to the system. They want to play for free. (that's fine, as many pay by PLEX, but it also kills your argument.) (There's no value in people joining with the aim of not paying at all.)
I fully understand why you brought up a promotional value as argument, because it helps you support your point. Facts of the matter, though, do not support it. You should have thought this through first.
TL;DR:
CCP promoting it via giving out free headsets is a waste of money, because Sony can and will do a much better job.
"Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote.
"AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:40:49 -
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raven666wings wrote:^^ That's a fairly large wall of text, but I think you must have missed the part in the OP where it's written "this would be the perfect time for CCP to partner with a PC compatible VR HMD manufacturer (Oculus/Samsung/HTC) and make us a PLEX for VR HMD offer!" so maybe you should reformulate your objection. Gee, I did. Doesn't mean anything, though. We're still talking about hundreds of thousands for a relatively small audience, especially compared to Sony's.
Quote:The idea behind the promotion is not only to promote Valkyrie and offer players the opportunity to acquire PC VR headsets, but also to promote EVE Online and PLEX as a virtual currency that may be exchanged for real world goods. This was in CCP's vision in the past when they introduced the PLEX concept and was one of the reasons they made the initial PLEX for Nvidia card offer in 2012. There's even a video interview with CCP's CEO where he explains how he wishes one day EVE players will be able to use isk virtual currency to acquire real world goods and services. Yeah ... so?
How does any of this change anything about what I have written above?
Nothing.
It's a waste of CCP's money and promotes literally nothing Sony couldn't do a million times better.
And they are doing it. Valkyrie will be bundled with the headset, the headset and Valkyrie are getting promoted by Sony, which means that Sony is also promoting EVE ONLINE automagically.
It's a waste of CCP's money to do the same thing someone else can do much better and actually does it *for free*.
You do not even care about the facts. You want CCP to waste their money so you get something for free.
If someone talked CCP into doing such a promotion, I'd have to quesiton their marketing department and collective intelligence. There is *no* need for such a promotion, as those with more money and higher reach can and will promote the headset, Valkyrie and thus also EVE ONLINE much better than CCP ever could.
I really can not make it any easier for you to understand. I can admit that this might be a failure on my part, but I do still wrongly expect people to think while they read.
"Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote.
"AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.12 00:01:30 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:... beeing ... GOON SPY CONFIRMED!!!
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I apologise. I have spent way too much time on reddit, reading up on the BRAVE COUPCOUNTERCOUPWAITOGOBOIS!
I will shame myself and leave now. :)
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
Ron Gilbert made me cry.
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